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Episode Poll: 5.13 Blood Ties

So I'm taking the GRE next Monday. I'm CRAMMING. As such, I may be a mere ghostly presence in the LJ world for the next week. (Though there may be more Wordy fic soon...)

Still, have a poll!

Midpoint of S5, anyone? You know you wanna poll for Blood Ties...

Poll #1832620
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 109

1. Buffy finally tells the others that Dawn's the Key. They're annoyed that she took so long. Do you think she was in the right to keep that info under wraps?

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Yes. After all, the Scoobies started acting weirdly around Dawn once they know.
58 (54.7%)
She had been at first, but she took too long to tell them.
28 (26.4%)
No. She should have told them as soon as she found out.
2 (1.9%)
I have another answer.
7 (6.6%)
Not sure.
11 (10.4%)

2. The Knights of Byzantium make another appearance in this episode. Some people have issues with these guys. What say you?

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Stupid concept.
18 (17.0%)
Interesting concept. Poorly executed.
63 (59.4%)
Good concept. Good execution. I have no issues.
15 (14.2%)
I have another answer.
2 (1.9%)
Not sure.
8 (7.5%)

3. Which Scooby do you think does the worst job of "acting normal" around Dawn?

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Willow. "Well, I don't think Buffy would like the, uh, black arts bumpin' auras with the littlest Summers."
10 (9.7%)
Tara. "This should give us a heads-up so we can hide ... the, um, key."
8 (7.8%)
Anya. "You make a very pretty little girl!"
68 (66.0%)
Xander. "How's my sweet fancy Dawn doing?"
17 (16.5%)

4. Is Glory prettier than Buffy? Dawn says yes.

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Yeah. Glory's prettier than Buffy.
8 (7.5%)
They're equally pretty.
20 (18.9%)
Nope. Buffy's prettier than Glory.
70 (66.0%)
I have another answer
5 (4.7%)
Not sure
3 (2.8%)

5. Dawn finds out she's the Key in this episode. Should Buffy have told her earlier?

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49 (46.2%)
30 (28.3%)
I have another answer
5 (4.7%)
Not sure
22 (20.8%)

6. Spike complains about not being in "the bloody loop" with regards to Dawn as the Key. Should he have been told?

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22 (20.8%)
51 (48.1%)
I have another answer
6 (5.7%)
Not sure
27 (25.5%)

7. Glory threatens to brain-suck Dawn before Buffy interrupts. Would she have been able to?

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Yes. Then Dawn would still be usable as the Key.
28 (26.7%)
Yeah, but then she couldn't use Dawn as the Key
12 (11.4%)
24 (22.9%)
I have another answer.
6 (5.7%)
Not sure
35 (33.3%)

8. Pretend you're a movie reviewer and give this episode a star rating:

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***** (Five stars)
6 (5.8%)
**** (Four stars)
59 (57.3%)
*** (Three stars)
35 (34.0%)
** (Two stars)
2 (1.9%)
* (One star)
1 (1.0%)


Apr. 10th, 2012 01:01 pm (UTC)
1, 5, 6. The tricky thing here is that Buffy herself is still in shock about it - for good reason. She doesn't fully accept who Dawn is until the end of this episode. It's hard to say what would be the "right" moment to reveal to her friends (or to Dawn herself) that her little sister, whom they've known for five years and she's known for 14 years, doesn't exist. For one thing, from a purely cold strategic point of view, what would be the point in telling them? It's already been shown that the other Scoobies have a pretty good relationship with Dawn, would knowing that she's Da Key somehow make them more likely to risk their lives to protect her than if she's just a slightly annoying but generally well-liked younger sibling of their best friend with a tendency to get kidnapped every Tuesday? Are they more or less at risk of getting hurt if they know or don't know? Is Dawn better or worse off having a major existential crisis? What if part of Buffy is afraid that they'd throw Dawn to Glory and be done with it? What if part of Buffy believes that would be the right thing to do? Buffy has a tendency to keep things to herself she'd probably be better off sharing, but I can completely understand why Dawn's status throws her. What do you do with that sort of information? "Oh, by the way, everything you know is wrong. Don't act any different or people might die." ...Which I'm guessing ties in nicely with Joss' fascination with existentialism - there's no fixed answer for this sort of thing, you give it meaning by giving it meaning. Etc.

2. The idea of an ancient mystical order being after Da Key is a good one. Having them dress like mediaeval knights and act like Monty Python's French knnnnnnniggits despite the fact that they're all obviously Americans in their late 20s is supremely silly. Both the Initiative and the Watcher's Council seem far more plausible - and that's saying something. Hell, even the Order of Taraka was hip to 20th century technology.

7. I defy anyone to make a logical prediction about how Da Key works. It does what the plot needs it to do.

8. 4. Not a great episode, but some nicely done reveals, and hugely emotional for us Dawn fans.
Apr. 10th, 2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
Good points, all.

2. lol! They can't even handle a hospital visit without being all weird. What's up?
Apr. 10th, 2012 08:40 pm (UTC)

I'm most conflicted about Dawn, because she deserved to be told rather than finding out, but there's not really a good time to drop that on someone, and I can't imagine Dawn's existential crisis is something Buffy wanted to handle when she was still struggling with it herself. The others? Yeah, it might be helpful information for them to have, but they're pretty fray-adjacent at this point.

(Of course, if Buffy hadn't told the Scoobies, they wouldn't have have acted so weird, so Dawn might not have gone looking for answers and Buffy could've told her when she was ready. So... I tend to come down on Buffy's side on not telling the Scoobies, heh.)
Apr. 14th, 2012 02:43 am (UTC)
late comment
Plus when exactly is a good time -- when Dawn's worried about her mom dying? Oh, by the way, she's not your mom so you shouldn't care, Dawn. Or maybe right after Riley just left Buffy?

At first, it's too much of a shock for Buffy, then Joyce gets sick, then Riley leaves. There's never a good moment to tell Dawn.
Aug. 22nd, 2012 01:58 pm (UTC)
Re: late comment
Angeria, noting that you've added "late comment" to your subject, and I'm even later than that - is that considered the "appropriate etiquette" on LJ? (yes I am honestly that clueless.)
Aug. 22nd, 2012 01:57 pm (UTC)
Buffy has a tendency to keep things to herself she'd probably be better off sharing, but I can completely understand why Dawn's status throws her. What do you do with that sort of information?

This is me nodding in agreement to this entire post. And also to this:
There's never a good moment to tell Dawn.

I really didn't even think about the metaphor of adoption (in RL) until someone mentioned it on the internet (prob on this site?) and then I was all "oh, yeah, duh". Is that issue a huge one for parents who have adopted children? It's painted as such in what little media I've seen addressing the issue, if at all.

ETA: I love that Summers blood scene at the hospital, for the acting on MT & SMG's part (the thing about the blood made no sense - Dawn's not her daughter - and made less sense later on - why not make the Key an inanimate object that can't bleed, if blood is necessary? etc etc But nice scene nonetheless)

Edited at 2012-08-22 02:20 pm (UTC)


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