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Unpopular Opinions Sanctuary Post 2011

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Hey all! Do you remember when we did that unpopular opinions post last Thanksgiving? That was fun, right? Good! Cause we're gonna do it again!

Consider this a general trigger warning for the post, guys. Some unpopular opinions may be upsetting.

Every one of us has opinions on canon that seem to be amazingly unpopular in our corner of fandom. Maybe you think S7 was da bomb. Or you think that Jonathan was the worst of the Trio. Or you think that Joyce was clearly sexually attracted to Oz.

Whatever it is, this post gives you a place to speak your mind without fear of raised eyebrows or disagreement. That's right. This is the Unpopular Opinions Sanctuary Post! Again!

The Rules:

1. One opinion per thread. This way, agreement with that opinion can be consolidated within individual threads. If you have more than one unpopular opinion, make different comment threads for each of them.

2. Before making a new comment thread about an unpopular opinion, check to see if anybody else has commented with that opinion or something similar. If such a thing exists, just comment in that thread rather than creating your own.

3. As #2 indicates, reply to opinions you agree with! Discuss and revel and frolic in the knowledge that you aren't alone. Do a happy dance!

4. If you see an opinion you disagree with, just move past it. Don't argue, don't comment to boggle, don't even make a good-natured comment saying you disagree. Just...leave it be. Scroll down. Find an opinion you do agree with or make your own.

5. This is for unpopular opinions about canon, not fandom. So if you think you're the only one who hates gabs with a fiery passion, you're gonna have to keep it to yourself on this one. This also applies to opinions about fanfic, fanfic tropes, fandom factions, actors, etc. Canon opinions only.

6. Unpopular opinions about the S8 and S9 comics are welcome, as are AtS opinions. All of the BtVS verse is wide open on this one.

7. No ragging on other fans. You can lament the unpopularity of your opinion, but don't go so far as to insult or put down the fans that may disagree when doing so. Example: "I think Clem is the true star of the show. Really, it was all about him. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just a stupidhead!" See that? Don't do that. Just stop before the last sentence.

This also means no implications or statements that other fans are delusional, naive, immature, shallow, or anything of the like. Just...don't say anything about other fans. It's not hard. You can do it!

8. If your opinion involves the attempted rape scene of Seeing Red in any way, shape, or form, please include a warning in the comment subject line indicating as such.

What's the point?

Simple. Fandom is full of a diverse range of opinions and interpretations. Some are more popular than others. It can feel a bit stifling when you hold a minority opinion on something. This post is for you to air those opinions out without being put in a position to defend them or receive grief for them. What's more, you may find people who agree with you. It'll be fun! :)

Still not sure?

Follow my lead. The first couple comment threads will be by me with my oh-so-unpopular opinions.

Oh! Also, pimp this out if you'd like. It'd be nifty to get peeps from other parts of fandom involved.

Comments

gabrielleabelle
Nov. 20th, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
I think Buffy didn't think about Spike much at all prior to Crush. He just usually didn't cross her mind. Hence her puzzled, "Huh?" when Dawn tells her that Spike's in love with her.

This seems to be a minority view for a Spuffy fan, though.
boot_the_grime
Nov. 20th, 2011 05:08 pm (UTC)
You're probably right. It's hard otherwise hard to explain her not staking him in Out of My Mind. She had too many other things on her mind in both season 4 and 5 and just thought of his as this annoying vampire.
sarahsmile215
Nov. 20th, 2011 08:38 pm (UTC)
I tend to agree. I think that while she may flirt with him prior to this, it is purely unintentional in that she doesn't realize her interactions could be construed that way.
frelling_tralk
Nov. 20th, 2011 05:50 pm (UTC)
Hmm I never really thought about it before, but yeah I think I agree with that. I guess that the great love/hate "dance" was more on Spike's side, whereas for Buffy he was generally more someone that she tolerated at best once he was chipped. Or before then, when she saw him in Harsh Light Of Day, it came across as pretty flirty IMHO with them checking out one anothers dates *g*, but it was also very much more "lol Spike, what's he doing with Harmony" than any kind of really intense interaction
snickfic
Nov. 20th, 2011 05:56 pm (UTC)
I think I agree. Yes. Even though I'm usually willing to let a fic convince me otherwise.
menomegirl
Nov. 20th, 2011 05:59 pm (UTC)
I 100% agree with this.
lusciousxander
Nov. 20th, 2011 07:36 pm (UTC)
Totally agree.
penny_lane_42
Nov. 20th, 2011 07:50 pm (UTC)
I think that this is accurate, and it's one of the reasons why I don't find fic about them pre-then realistic at all. I may enjoy it, but I don't actually believe it, unless it's massively AU.
samsom
Nov. 20th, 2011 08:33 pm (UTC)
I think you're right. *nods*
treadingthedark
Nov. 20th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
I agree. Frankly, I didn't think of Spuffy at all until after crush. And I turned out to be a massive Spuffy fan. However I still immensely enjoy the opposite view in fic.
devilscrayon
Nov. 20th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
Yup. Although I'm surprised she didn't clue in after FFL with the attempted kiss, I agree that she had far far more important things on her mind at the time and probably didn't spend much time thinking about that particular event.
boot_the_grime
Nov. 20th, 2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
I think she saw the FFL attempted kiss as some sort of mind game. He had been trying to kill her for years and as recently as OoMM and had just spent an evening telling her she had a death wish and threatening to kill her when he gets the chance.

I don't think the possibility he could be in love with her ever entered her mind.
devilscrayon
Nov. 20th, 2011 11:22 pm (UTC)
Excellent point. I can see Buffy viewing it that way for sure.
anviloverheaven
Nov. 20th, 2011 10:00 pm (UTC)
I agree wholeheartedly!
eowyn_315
Nov. 20th, 2011 10:58 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I think it's a lot of fun to write fic where she notices earlier, but in canon? Nope.
vampluvr1753
Nov. 21st, 2011 04:39 am (UTC)
Agreed!
tennyo_elf
Nov. 22nd, 2011 01:27 am (UTC)
I agree. I think there was attraction (subconsciously) and maybe stray thoughts occasionally but Buffy was totally preoccupied with other things.
eveolina
Nov. 23rd, 2011 08:53 am (UTC)
I think I agree with this.

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