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Jun. 17th, 2010 (UTC)

will57
You know what? I've never understood (or seen in canon) this idea that Marti wanted us to hate Spike 'cause he was the Bad Boyfriend in S6. I just don't see it.

I think just taking canon on its own, that's not at all apparent. However, for people who read interviews and who followed along with the show while it aired, there was apparently a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff going on that muddled the message.

And the AR is a failure of execution, but at risk of being piled on, I really don't think that was a bad *idea* either. Knowing nothing of what was going on behind the scenes, I thought it made complete sense within the narrative. (I just wish it was handled better.)

I think it made sense within the narrative. I think the reason it's a bad idea is largely because of the existing rape culture it was created in, and how it inadvertently plays into a lot of those harmful tropes. I don't know that it would have been possible to execute in in a way that didn't present a harmful portrayal of an attempted rape.

I also agree with Lirazel's criticism (At least, I think she's the one who's said this) in that, from a narrative perspective, it works well to forward Spike's story, but it's at the expense of Buffy because it necessarily forces her into a victimized role, which is...icky. That makes me uneasy.

I just wish they hadn't gone there at all.

And might I add the Willow/First Evil scenes in Conversations to the list of Marti achievements? Those scenes are both devastating and creepy as fuck.

Definitely!



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